One of the best presenters I have come across in the IPAA [program]- David's material, teaching method, and engagement have all been wonderful. Most importantly the information has been relative and helpful.
Jade
SA Health
IPAA South Australia, in partnership with the Government of South Australia, hosted an event in late 2020 to unpack the Uluru Statement from the Heart .
The event began with a Welcome to Country from Robert Taylor representing three different Aboriginal groups — the Ngarrindjeri from down on the Coorong, the Nharangga from the York Peninsula, and the Kaurna people of the Adelaide plains.
Kirstie Parker, acting Executive Director of Aboriginal Affairs and Reconciliation with the Department of the Premier and Cabinet, then introduced Professor Megan Davis — Pro Vice Chancellor and Balnaves Chair in Constitutional Law, Indigenous Law Centre, UNSW — to deliver her keynote address.
Professor Megan Davis has been working on constitutional recognition for two decades, and read out the Uluru Statement from the Heart on the floor of the First Nations Convention in May 2019. Her address focused on what the Uluru Statement from the Heart is, where it has come from, and what it means.
The more technical complexities were then addressed by a discussion panel facilitated by Kirstie Parker which included Professor Davis, David Brown (Department for Correctional Services), Kim Cheater (PwC Australia), Arrin Hazelbane (Department of Human Services), and Jim McDowell (Department of the Premier and Cabinet).
Robert Taylor of the Ngarrindjeri, Nharangga and Kaurna peoples delivered the Welcome to Country.
Professor Davis described how constitutional recognition has been a project in Australia — mandated and supported by the Australian Government at the Commonwealth level — for about ten years.
‘So it’s been about ten years that we’ve been in this process of eliciting what constitutional recognition might mean in terms of the actual amendment of the Australian Constitution’s text to recognise First Nations people.
And so it’s had multi-party support for a decade, and a bit longer before that, but we’ve seen about five Federal processes now — including expert panels and Referendum Councils, and Parliamentary committees, and independent reviews — five of them in ten years. And eight reports in ten years.’
Professor Davis went on to observe:
‘So it’s a lot of work in one area of public policy.
And a lot of that culminated with this issuing of the Uluru Statement from the Heart, and a very substantive kind of platform for the nation in terms of addressing what it is the original grievance really — what Patrick Dodson famously called “Unfinished Business”.
But that reality is, this has not been addressed, and that really drives into the heart of the Uluru Statement from the Heart.’
Professor Davis said that one of the problematic areas of the last ten years has been the language of recognition:
‘Recognition is actually a really complex legal and political term because it can mean multiple things — it can mean symbolism, but it also means substantive, concrete reform.’
In the middle of 2015, the Government and Prime Minister and Cabinet invited forty Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander leaders from across Australia to what became known as ‘The Kirribilli Meeting’.
Those Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander leaders issued a statement called ‘The Kirribilli Statement‘.
Professor Davis explained that:
‘The Statement was very clear in 2015, that any reform to the Australian Constitution must involve substantive changes: that any reform to the Australian Constitution must lay the foundations for the fair treatment of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples into the future.
And so this Kirribilli Statement drew a line in the sand. It said in 2015, two years before the Uluru Statement, that a minimalist approach to constitutional change — that provides preambular recognition, that removes Section 25, and the moderates race powers — does not go far enough, and would not be acceptable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.’
Professor Davis went on to say :
‘One thing the Kirribilli Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander leaders did do, was insist that there needed to be a dialogue — an ongoing dialogue, an engagement with Aboriginal people — on what the proposed question would be.
So that was the motivation for the Referendum Council.’
Professor Davis was a member of the Referendum Council appointed by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten in December 2015.
The job of the Referendum Council was to advise the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition on progress and next steps towards a successful referendum to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in the Constitution.
Professor Davis designed the Dialogue process that engaged the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community on constitutional recognition.
‘So we decided that this was a very difficult time to be going out to our communities — to ask them about constitutional reform.
There was already a huge backlash against the Recognise campaign and the neon ‘R’, and so it was very difficult, at that point, to engage the community who felt left behind by these campaigns that they didn’t see reflect their issues.
We were also just in the early stages for the Indigenous Advancement Strategy, and it was a difficult time to go out and consult.’
Given this context it was decided to spend a year consulting communities first, about what the dialogue structure would look like the following year.
‘And we did a lot of preparation, and sought a lot of advice from communities about how we would engage our people in a discussion about constitutional recognition.
There’s a really important point to be made here about Treaty and Voice — which was the priority form that got up — Treaty has always been an aspiration of our people … but Treaty doesn’t require constitutional enshrinement.
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It was decided by everybody in the process that we weren’t going to waste the opportunity of constitutional recognition by just dumping this process, and dumping the opportunity for recognition, and just putting your hopes and all your eggs in the basket of a Treaty.’
Drawing on research from all around the world, it was decided that the dialogues — a term that came from the Kirribilli Meeting — would be built around citizens deliberative processes that have been shown to be really effective in informing people about the options on the table, and allowing them to have an informed decision.
‘The options for reform were given to us by the Prime Minister and the Opposition Leader, and they were based on the expert panel, and the Federal Parliament’s Joint Select Parliamentary Committee.
So nothing that we took out to these dialogues wasn’t something that the Government and the Opposition didn’t agree to, because they did.’
The Referendum Council was not given a lot of money to run the dialogues so they chose to run it with a robust sample of First Nations people.
Every single dialogue was run in exactly the same way. Numbers were capped at one hundred to enable enough advisers — constitutional lawyers and local Aboriginal leaders — to manage those conversations.
Sixty per cent of the invitations were privileged for traditional owners because the Referendum Council wanted the cultural authority of country to underpin the decision-making.
The dialogues were also designed explicitly to militate against group-think.
‘We didn’t want people to come in with campaigns for particular things that they’d been fighting for years.
We needed to break group-think to allow people to come to an informed decision on their own. And so that meant the findings of the Broome Dialogue were not then shown to the Dubbo Dialogue. The same with the Hobart Dialogue.
So we kept back all of the records of meetings which everybody would sign off on at the end of a dialogue.’
In addition:
‘We ran the structured process in a way that we would break up different positions to ensure that the process wasn’t being gamed from one dialogue to the next, but that it actually was the contemplation of a particular geographical place — which was really that group —contemplating recognition in the context of their region, and their people. and their country, and that it wasn’t something that was some big national pan-Aboriginal campaign.
And that was really critical for the dialogues.’
The Referendum Council sought permission from as many Traditional Owners, peak bodies and leaders as possible.
A trial dialogue was held at The University of Melbourne bringing together the Aboriginal leaders who would lead the dialogues in their regions through the entire dialogue process.
The Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies were engaged to run the logistics. They engaged the local Land Councils to decide who would be invited and the local working group leaders who would then lead that process.
‘So we tried really hard to make sure that it was as “ground-up” as possible and that apart from the structure of the invitation list, that we weren’t imposing too much on the process.’
Dialogues were held in twelve regions around the country — in Hobart, Broome, Dubbo, Darwin, Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, Cairns, Ross River, Adelaide, Brisbane, Thursday Island and Canberra.
The key characteristics of these dialogues were impartiality, accessibility of information, open and constructive dialogue, and mutually agreed and owned outcomes.
And then there was a National Convention held at Uluru from the 23rd to the 26th of May 2017.
‘What’s really important to know about the Uluru Statement and the meeting at Uluru was it wasn’t a vote on anything — it was to endorse what was done in the dialogues.
So that was a really critical thing — that when you got to Uluru people just couldn’t swan in from all parts of the country and undo what was done in the regional dialogues.
It was really important that those men and women and young people who had participated in those dialogues, that their decision-making was upheld at Uluru.
And so that was what was done.’
Professor Davis described the process at Uluru:
‘People read out the record of the meetings at Uluru and then we collated all the prioritisation of the law reforms, and the Voice to Parliament was the unanimous option for constitutional recognition.’
From her perspective, the dialogue process was completely unprecedented in the nation’s history:
‘It was the first time that a national constitutional convention was convened with, and for, our First Nations People on the Australian Constitution.’
Professor Davis said it was really the most proportionally significant consultation process that’s ever been undertaken, involving a robust proportion of delegates who participated from a population of approximately 60,000 people.
‘We didn’t just take a model from overseas and transplant it.’
Professor Megan Davis delivers her keynote address at the Uluru Statement of the Heart event.
The reform that came out of the Uluru Meeting is popularly known as Voice Treaty Truth — the constitutional element being a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament.
Professor Davis described how a Voice to Parliament is a really common mechanism around the world, and that the United Nations spent a decade collating the way in which Western liberal democracies have accommodated the Indigenous Voice with the framework of the democratic state. This work led to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples in 2007.
Professor Davis described the Declaration as being ‘absolutely about self-determination and what that looks like in the framework of the state’, and pointed to Articles 18 and 19 which ‘set out political participation processes and institutions that states should consider when they’re thinking about how to improve participation of Indigenous peoples within the democratic framework’.
During the dialogues discussion about a Voice to Parliament drew substantially on the expert mechanism in the Declaration.
‘We traversed about fifty countries that have different ways of accommodating Voice.
We don’t do it very well because Voice is always filtered post-access, through bureaucracy — what that means is the bureaucracy talks to peak bodies and peaks kind of play this role.
But the Number One group that First Nations People said in their dialogues do not represent their voice, were peak bodies.
And that was a really important message for constitutional lawyers like me because it’s a red flag — that people really feel like their voice isn’t being heard.
It’s not being heard through the ballot box because of the small kind of number we constitute in the nation — but also because it is an Indigenous issue — but also it was a very strong feeling right across the country that peak bodies don’t represent the voice of Aboriginal people on the ground.
Professor Davis described how the dialogues realised a solution which no constitutional lawyer had come up with prior to the dialogues — something ‘which speaks to the creativity that can happen when you engage citizens and deliberate with citizens on really important reforms that will effect their lives’.
First Nations Peoples, through the dialogues, discussed how the Voice would not only empower people that don’t normally have a voice, but also provide accountability.
‘People felt it needed a First Nations Voice — so not an ATSIC model that elects an individual who represents an electorate — but it would be a process in which an individual would represent their First Nation.
So it’s still a collective model, but you are there on behalf of your Nation.’
The Voice would operate ‘at the front and political limit’ on the Parliament’s power to pass laws that effect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.
‘So that would mean the Voice was engaged for anything passed under 51 (26) of the race power, and 122 the plenaries power for the Territories.
And while the mob appreciated that this would not guarantee that these powers would not be used against them in the future in an adverse way, it does create a limit for political empowerment which would hopefully lead to better designed policies in the future.’
The second option was a Makarrata Commission — a commission that would be set up to supervise agreement making.
‘It was very clear from the dialogues that not everybody is ready to enter into a Treaty negotiation.
People were acutely aware of the power imbalance between the states or the Commonwealth and First Nations people.
In some areas of the country Treaty was really popular but in other areas where there are big Native Title agreements and a lot of agreement making there was a lot of fatigue.
Professor Davis explained that Treaty is a complex thing which is ‘very hard to negotiate when you have nothing, when you don’t have the resources’.
In addition:
‘It was very clear in the discussions that Native Title had had a negative detrimental impact upon a lot of communities, and people felt there needed to be healing and dispute resolution between families before they could even contemplate entering into negotiations with the state.’
The final option was Truth Telling.
Professor Davis described the importance First Nations people put on Truth Telling:
‘We couldn’t begin the dialogues at every single place that we went without mob wanting to talk for a day on Truth Telling and Australian history.
And that was quite an extraordinary privilege to be in those rooms and listen to people talk about Truth and the importance of Truth as being the foundation for us moving ahead with these reforms.’
Professor Davis described how, despite initially saying ‘No’ to the Uluru Statement from the Heart, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull put it into a Joint Select Committee a few weeks later.
The Joint Select Committee focused on the Uluru Statement and the reform.
‘That Joint Select Committee handed down their report and said — that despite the fact that Canberra wants symbolism — they came to see symbolism is off the table, and that the only viable option was Voice to Parliament.
And they recommended that the Voice was designed first, before you have a referendum — not necessarily legislated first, but designed first.’
Professor Davis described how, before the lockdown, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said in the Closing the Gap speech that he would look at the form of the Voice after Ken Wyatt, the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, had consulted further over December, January and February.
‘Hopefully the Australian community will have made its views very clear — that they want an enshrined Voice which is very different to just legislating a Voice under the race power.’
Kirstie Parker
Kirstie Parker thanks Professor Megan Davis for her keynote address.
A link to the video of the full Uluru Statement from the Heart event is available below.
Professor Megan Davis’ address, delivered by Zoom due to travel restrictions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, begins at 26:10 and runs for 37 minutes.
The panel discussion begins at 1:36:50 following a break for morning tea.
Further resources on the Uluru Statement from the Heart are available on IPAA South Australia’s event archives page.
